Life on a Garvey

by Jay Willrick
(Daytona Beach, Fl.)

Garvey style boat with pot hauler

Garvey style boat with pot hauler

As kids growing up on the Great South Bay we lived amongst millionaires; our grandparents were slaves for them. Being from East Islip, Long Island we were middle class regular folks, from hard working backgrounds. Work ethic was the drill as my dad was a US Marine, so I had to keep a job. Any job.

From summer into fall we would tread clams in warm weather, rake in cool weather all during our teen years. While doing so collect scallops, blue claws and occasional flounder called fluke around the island. I remember eeling through a hole in the ice with grandpa on Champlain Creek and grandma’s cod fish stew and pickled eel in jars in the pantry.

Can’t express what freedom we had being our own bosses in those days it was great. Our fathers, granddads and uncles were all baymen, duck hunters and fishermen. They built their own boats for their passions and their own handmade decoys. If you find a decoy in some antique store marked WW it was made by either my grandfather or uncle. Their shot guns were sacred and polished, locked up in the gun cabinets displayed in the living rooms because that was normal.

They hung around a potbelly in winter evenings in the old East Islip lumber yard back in the 50`s & 60`s whittling ducks, geese, and building garvies, a style of bay boat. These boats were built to last; thick enough to bust ice, work off, and play on with a small wheelhouse for rain, sleet or any other crappy bay weather.

The hull had a squared off bow, wide gunnels for walking, and a beefy transom for holding a large outboard. 100 hp Evinrude was the biggest you could get then and they were a tank of an outboard if you have ever tried to raise one from in the boat. Boats over 23 feet had a small inboard and were used to drag the duck scooters out past the ice.

I live in Florida now and still own an old garvey built by those guys back then it has seen better days but I can’t part with it. Wood boats glassed over or not don’t hold up down here. Some day the old garvey will be incorporated into my barn house dream I’ll build here on my 5 acre lot of pines. Perhaps part of it will be a bar or a desk or just hung up in the rafters from chains for a guest bed in the loft. Next to the old “Broadbill” I’ll display some of my south bay memorabilia, decoys etc. For now I’ll keep buying new tarps to keep it dry.

I truly miss the Great South Bay and don’t get up there as much as I would like. Florida has nice winters but summers are steamy hot and we hide in the AC like Long Islanders hide near their stoves in winter.

I would rather be back on the bay drifting across the flats behind East & West Fire Island, eating a raw clam with ketchup and an ice cold Bud, the way life should be with my trusty lab Chally, named after the old watchman at the East Islip Anglers boat club that we called home port for so many great years.

Love that place and wish I could still afford to live on Long Island. Anyway it was the best place I can think of to grow up.

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Jul 08, 2010
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My Heart Aches..continued
by: Rich Strauss

CONTINUED......Our boat took us everywhere, including the very west end of the Great South Bay. Running through the little bridge in Freeport the Bay would suddenly open up to us like in a dream. I was so impressed how big it was, how flat , how calm, only being used to the channels and Jones Inlet of my area. My dad taught us about the eel grass that was everywhere, and at times in our prop. I especially was impressed as a kid, running past the bay shacks that are still around today, and wanting to live all summer in a bay shack. Thats also where I fell in love with the Garvey the first time I saw one. A Garvey tied to a dock at a Long Island bay shack. Is there anything more beautiful? Not to me as a kid who will never grow up . Some guys still run garveys in Freeport. Traditional Garveys, wood, in pristine condition tied to very nice docks with million dollar homes behind them. There were also a few in the main channel in Freeport, a few houses out from Guy Lombardo's house. These were kept recreationaly by Freeport boys my age, 50 years and counting, who's grandfathers were the famous Rum Runners of the day. These garveys had 250 plus outboards on them. They had a home made tiller and a throttle mounted on the gunnel. Incredible boats. I can't imagine the thrill of opening one of those boats up on the glassy waters of the high tide mud flats. I am so happy to see them all alive and in use in any capacity, pristine, hot rod or waterman use. I have seen a few wood garveys in use by watermen , but they are becoming more and more rare. A friend who works the water out of Freeport has an old 19 foot Boston Whaler that was stripped out and beefed up, a great boat for his work, which I can understand fiberglass being easier to maintain than a wood garvey, and the Carolina Skiff being the now "off the shelf" boat for the waterman, but there's just something so special about the wood garvey being used as she was meant to, on the Long Island waters, to me anyhow.
I have been very lucky these many years in that I have always had a place to return to on Long Island to visit and enjoy the water like in the old days. My folks still have the house I grew up in since the 50's. I Live in Virginia since 1985, but return "home" and fish and hunt the waters, and sometimes just mess around in boats kind of like we used to. My son and I fish. We even drag a sein net and catch our spearing and killies, to catch our flatties, keeping those traditions, and they are simply the best of times. Another marsh rat in the making, imagine that!
Well, thanks for listening to me ramble on and on. Long live the Long Island waters and traditions.

Jul 08, 2010
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My Heart Aches
by: Rich Strauss

... My heart aches for the old times on Long Island waters. I grew up a bit west of you guys. I was a teenager in the 70's and from age 13 through High School, ran boats all through out the marshes of Freeport, Baldwin, chancing Jones Inlet on calm days. As marsh rats, we'd clam and fish, crab and when someone would take us, we'd eel too. My brother had a good friend who's family went back into the 1700's who kept up the traditions of following the water, not as their income as in the past generations, but as their summer recreation. The Carmen's of Baldwin, Don taught my brother and he taught me how to jack for eels and many other ways of Long Island waters. Anytime spent on the bay was simply great and to learn a few of the old tricks, better yet. Dad bought an 18 foot Old Town boat as salvage one spring, from Scotties in Point Lookout for $125. It was rolled in the surf in Jones Inlet, Dad said someone drowned and it was kinda spooky as a kid for me to want to like a boat with a history as that, but within the first 5 minutes of zooming in it on the water, all creepiness vanished in the wake. As a family we worked on that boat for months scraping paint, then painting it the color " Buff" and the sides " Sky Blue " cause thats the traditional colors of boats that my Dad remembered as a kid. His family had a summer bungalow at the foot of the Atlantic Beach Bridge and he spent his summers with a small wood boat and a cranky outboard selling soda to fishermen. Working on the Old Town half this summer, Dad steamed strips of oak slats and bent them on his knee, and my brother and he bolted them next to the broken ribs and called them " sister ribs" like an old boat carpenter taught him...and they worked. We also 'caulked" the lapstreak seams with this new rubbery stuff called Thyocol that was developed from the space program. My Dad told me that and I pretended our boat was also a rocket ship, ha kid's imagination. Dad bought an old 50 hp Evinrude that had to be started by squirting a little gas into the carburator on a cold start with an old pump oil can. Hey, it worked and we were on the water. That old engine drank gas by the gallon. No windshield, just an old piece of waxed tarp, I remember that smell to this day, to pull up as we hit waves and got drenched, Dad at the helm, head to tow dripping with sea water and happy as a Long Island Clam. Best of family times, happy times that boat and those waters gave us....CONTINUED

Jul 01, 2010
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remembrance
by: Anonymous

I grew up in East Islip. From a very young age I remember going to the "Great River" often to bring home a basket of blue crabs with my brothers and friends. We bought our bait from Pat's deli, tied it to a line, and for hours hauled in blues. When the snappers were running we hauled in large numbers of these also. Whenever we were on the water as youngsters we always clammed and likewise filled our buckets to take home. Fishing, crabbing, clamming, boating and sailing...we did it all. What a lucky childhood we had.

Nov 14, 2009
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Shack
by: Mike Bell

I am a member of the East Islip Anglers Club for over 20 years. Its great to hear stories of the old baymen. Very few left today, about 2 or 3 guys left. The old shack from the lumber yard was moved to the present site, its been added to over the years. Still the best club around with a lot of great history.

Jul 30, 2009
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Great Story
by: Joe Nielsen

My father was a clammer, he had 3 sons who went out with him on his 22' Volker built Garvey. Had a slip at the East Islip Marina for years then over to Champlain Creek and finished up at the Islip town Dock. Can't believe no more clams... A life lost. Sure wish I could make the cut between east and west island one more time.

Jun 27, 2009
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How things have changed...
by: Bill Drago

This is a wonderful story. It always amazes me how things have changed in what seems like such a short period of time.

I was a teenager in the '70s and back then the '50s seemed like forever-ago. But there were still a lot of baymen, duck hunters, wooden boats, etc. around and I didn't really notice or appreciate the changes taking place.

Here we are 60 years later (hard to believe it's more then half a century) and I still can't get a grip on how different things are now and, I wonder what then next half-century will bring.

Jun 26, 2009
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Garvey Guy
by: judy delaney

We who grew up on the Great South Bay, are related in a way, as we enjoyed the bounty to be had. I could just see your boats, and taste the clams. As a Blue Point girl, I know how you feel in your reminisence.

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